Posts Tagged ‘Pug’

who me, nah… it was some other tank

August 21, 2008

Did you ever did something in a Raid/instance that you’re not particularly proud of? Did you ever left someone on the ropes, because the thought of watching him twist and turn in agony, felt good?

Well, I kinda may have probably did that last night. I’ll explain….

Leeroy ?

Leeroy ?

First of, I’ve meet a great night elf hunter, Tox****, he´s good. he’s not only willing to listen but also shares is thoughts in a very clear way. Hell he even call’s out trap resists in instance runs.

I’m out-&-about last night, getting my last quests done in Stranglehorn Vale, you know favors for the goblins and such, when Tox**** whispers me and asks me if I what to tank Zul’Farak. I’m Fury talented, but I have good gear, my tanking is decent, and I did clear Maraudon and Scarlet monastery with him before while tanking. So I’m thinking that I’m up to the challenge, right?

I answer back with a big thumbs up and get an invite almost instant. We’re only missing a healer, not to bad right?

(of course, I’m like, jumping in my chair, because he actually recognize me as a tank, and instead of looking for a group, it came to me….I’m thrilled really)

The group starts talking and we’re really interested in Gahz’rilla. So we need the mallet to summon him. By now we’ve signed a druid (a balance one) to heal (interesting). The group set’s out to Southshore, to help out the Party leader (the rogue) get the mallet so we can take down “Gahz”, talk about team effort, right!!

The group is now composed of:

  • warrior 46
  • Rogue 46
  • Druid 47
  • Hunter 42
  • Mage 50

I’m thinking we’ve got a good group..everyone is talkative enough in Party chat, we’re all getting out of our ways to help one member get a quest item. that’s really nice…by the time I get to Southshore (all the way from booty bay) I check the map to realize that they didn’t wait up for me, in fact, they almost got to the Altar to craft the mallet …oh well, less pain for me I guess….

In party chat, I ask if they need help, the answer: No, it’s ok. Wait for us in there, so we can all ride down together.

ONE hour later….I’m still sitting by the Flight amster (I ran out of rabbits to kill) and the guys finally return after getting three more quests done down there. (they actually completed 3 of the mage’s quests in the area, you know, since they already in there right!?!)

I remain calm and didn’t, I repeat, DIDN’T say anything….but I wanted to !!!

They get to Theramore (mage portal???), and say that they will summon me to instance. Ok, I answer, while I lit a cigarette, and pour some chocolate milk in a glass. After a few minutes, there it his, a summon to ZF.

/greet

Ask if anyone needs stamina/mana food (yes, I do it). we’re all okay, and ready to go. we jump inside the instance, now the troubles start.

The mage (who shall remain anonymous) has a trigger finger issue! a severe one. so Severe he single-handedly made us wipe. three times.

After the first wipe, I asked to have a little time to build threat on the target mob, and to get at least a solid Aggro base, since the level difference from the mage makes it harder for me to hold it. A General “Yes!” sends me to the next group and we sheep and sap, moon and cross, leaving skull for me to build on…all is good all is fine none steals aggro! I move to Cross (sap) and get a solid start too, no problems there. I know the sheeped mob already has a base aggro from the mage , but my taunt is up, so I sunder the sheep and taunt the target, get working on it, and all is fine. That was the only good pull we had…

Right around the corner, the next group, was Aoe pulled by the mage’s Blizzard, I was thinking to myself….what, the….***curses to himself***, run and try to get me some attention. we barely made it.

Next pull, I manage to get to the mob first, but everyone had already started to Dps, before I landed the first hit. so much for that attempt. it was just a single mob, so not to bad. I mean, we lived.

Next pull, we sheep/sap again…no worries I get skull, draw him back and the mage starts exploding everywhere…needless to say, we wiped, again…

we go back..

same pull….

SAME FREAKING EXPLOSIONS……

I just sit down and die!

He get’s all berserk at me, saying, I’m not holding aggro……oh, if was next to me, I’d be eating trough a straw about now!!!! (yes eating **curses again**)

I say, something like, when I get to “tank” the mob, we do fine, when you start spamming needless spells, and do crazy actions, we wipe…but hey, if you wanna go for the mob first, go ahead, Tank away, just remember you have 2000 less Hp then me, even less armor, no avoidance, no shield….but hey, it’s your boat, rock it has you please…

I get a whisper from Tox**** saying, that he couldn’t believe the way the mage has acting, and saying sorry for having invited me.

“no worries mate, it’s a good trip, at least I now know who not to group with right…^^”

Call if fate or whatever, On our 4th wipe of the evening…we’re running back to where we died, and some mobs already started re-spawning, just after we kill one mob, My Internet decided to commit suicide, and left me hanging…

I try to get back, but it keeps saying that I can’t login! I figure I have to restart the router (like it or not) and the whole operation takes about 15  minutes to reboot..

I call it quits, and leave them all hanging…

I know I did a very bad thing…but the respect they showed me had it coming, I moved out of my way to help, and get stranded for over an hour, I try to do my job in the instance and can’t because some mage’tard doesn’t help, I get a massive (I know it’s level 46, but I’m not rolling in gold you know!!) repair bill.

I feel sorry for Tox**** tough.

Fireball this….

August 13, 2008

Has promised. A quick introduction to tanking, group analysis and situation awareness.

There you are, proud leader of a recently created group, all ready to tackle the next challenge in your wow-life, and guide your fellow adventurers into a pit of darkness and evil. (well, that painted a dark picture in the corner of your mind, didn’t it?)

Honestly, there’s little to be scared of, even for the first time runner, baby-raider, casual pugger, or random invite with a little bit of preparation, or even the simple understanding of what is your class and what is your job in-game will increase your chance of success (it WILL help to read-up on encounters, even if just to know what’s coming). That said, let’s move on with the show.

How you face any instance depends, first and foremost, of the group you have. What classes are the other four members? Do you have Crowd-control (CC) available? Can CC be used without crippling the group? What sort of Tank do you have? What type of healer is available? Is Damage-per-second (Dps) enough? There’s about a million more questions like these a group leader could ask himself, even before the run starts. Asking them and providing a positive answer, in my opinion,  are synonyms of a solid leadership (Auz?).

Let’s look at a fictional, although typical, situation while pugging. Our group is composed of:

  • Frost Mage
  • BM Hunter
  • Fury Warrior
  • Enhancement Shaman
  • Holy Priest

I will try to give the tank point of view and leadership.

Let’s assume, that all members are level 38 and that all understand their class and their role inside the group. They have tons of Dps, two solid crowd controllers, a panic mode healer, a solid healer, and a decent tank.

On your basic pull, there shouldn’t be any worries at all! let the warrior go for the mob and get a solid aggro base before unleashing hell, it won’t cause any problems.

But if everything was perfect there would be no need for this post (^^).

Line of sight pull

Line of sight pull

Casters are usually the most troublesome, why? well, because they just sit there and burn your little tush without even a shred of remorse. The way to tilt the tables to your side is the Line-of-Sight (LoS) mechanic. If you are out of the line of sight of said mob, it will run towards you, until is sees you, to restart casting.

On the above picture you can see our group (crosses), taking on a 3-man pull (circles). Melee and range is purple, casters are orange and Tank is red. We are going to turn a simple fight into an easier one.

The warrior shoots the caster mob and gets initial aggro from all three. he immediately runs into a the “shelter” position away from the group (marked with the dash arrow). Because the caster mob can’t see the tank it will run towards him to restart casting. we’re bringing melee down first so has soon has the mage see’s the caster mob, he will sheep it!

Apply a solid aggro base on both melee mobs and move in for the Kill,caster is now your only target and will fall very fast to the hands of your merciless Dps.

You can even, with this group, apply more crowd control (or protection from runaways) by having the hunter set a trap in the passage way to other mobs. This will freeze a runaway mob, or crowd control a second one on the way to the tank.

Kill order is a import notion to acquire. Here we have CC’d mobs, the Sheep’d mob is a healer and not a damage dealer, If no CC has present this would be your first target.

Avoid working in crowded areas, if possible, always pull into a previously cleared room, you do not what to have another 3 mobs (or more) running around hitting everyone. Keep the situation under control and if needed “drag” the mobs into other places (example the caster got sheep’d close to you)

NEVER turn you back to the enemy! Attacks from behind can’t be dodged, blocked or parried!!

ALWAYS try to keep your tanked mobs with their backs turned to your group! Attacks from behind can’t be dodged, blocked or parried!!

Check on your companions mana, take a break or carry on laying down the law. Knowing when to take a short snack brake is a good thing (also a good time to ask how things are going)

-Dranzig

Scarlet Run part.1

August 12, 2008

It’s finally time to get some parts of my gear upgraded, and I could use a bit of group drama (^^). I’m almost sure a tank can land a Scarlet monastery run fairly easy, so (although not talented for it) I can help out tanking if it’s needed!

I’m currently at level 37, I think I can handle myself inside without too much concern, and the “wanted” gear list isn’t too hard to get.

Gear updates:

Zone Drops

Getting the Scarlet Set would be a good tanking (??) set, and a solid way to grind to 40 (maybe more with some enchanting done)

Strength: +44, Agility: +12, Stamina: + 57

and the set bonuses:

+10 Armor, defense rating +2, +5 Shadow resistance, +15 Attack power versus Undead and +10 Hit rating.

It could use a bit more Agility to spike up the Critical chance, armor and Attack power. Even with Shield equipped I only get 8 more strength and 7 more stamina.

I favor the boss drops over the Zone drops, it would be easy to find almost equal (or better) upgrades on Auction house to sub for the Scarlet set. The set bonuses aren’t really that awe inspiring (except for the Hit rating, but 6 pieces, c´mon!)

All in all, since I’m aiming for a good time group fun, drops aren’t really that important, If I land a couple upgrades It’s nice, but If not, then that’s ok too.

LFG: curse or blessing?

August 8, 2008

Nibuca from Mystic chicanery asked the bloggers of Azeroth for ideas on how to make the current LFG system, a better one.

My take on the subject?

Filters! Loads of them! With colors.

Actually, like I commented on the forum thread, I believe the greatest problem with the LFG system, is it’s lack of use. Of course, I can only speak for my server, and even then I may be bias, since I’m yet to dwell into the end game content.

Even so:

  • Filters

It could be said, that If everyone would be on LFG system, that I would effectively filter out potential candidates for my group. Do I need CC? Am I looking for a Survival Hunter? Are we able to progress based on reputation? Can he do Heroic mode, with the current Comp.?

With a Filter based system, these could all be as trivial has browsing the Auction House.

  • Group need

More filters?!?! A bit of repeating myself here. Even more since Attunements where removed, but there was a time when, it could be helpful to get a group if your objectives where the same has the other members of your group. I’m always ready to help out, but unfortunately, there’s allot of Ninja reluctant players on Wow. Fight for the same Goal, there’s a higher chance of success in all ways.

  • Player need

No, I’m not repeating myself again, but the above for the group looking for the member, could also apply to the member looking for the Group! (almost poetry ^^)

  • Quests

There are allot of questing to do in groups, all of them require to all quest-sharing members to be on the same stage of the quest (/doh). Wouldn’t it be cool, if you could pick out group quests, and select only players that would be in the same stages has you!

  • More usage

A system (whatever it is) needs to be used to be useful, from my point of view, it isn’t! That could be it’s weakest point. It’s not rare for me to look for player willing to go to an instance, and only seeing the random rogue, hunter or mage in the “proper” LFG tab. Still I read dozens of “/4 ” shouts asking for player for the exact same instances I’m willing to go to!

When I’m looking for a specific class, I generally wonder the “/4” channel too, since it’s the best chance I have to get someone to join up, or even use the “who” tab and look for players around my level, scan trough classes my group could use and then whisper (with a thousand apologies) asking if that player would like to go for a little instancing fun!

  • suggestions?

I think this hasn’t reach the Shared topic yet, due to it’s massive size for improvement! The brainstorming of a focused group could come up with Thousands of ideas for the upgrade of the LFG system. I’m quite sure a per-class perspective on this would be interesting aswell, since same classes look for very specific things while in a group.

Oh, crap! just realized that with all the Add-ons world of warcraft has available, I don’t think there’s anything like the LFG system, is there?

/Runs of to search…

(shameful proof reading and error correction)